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John William Staines

John William Staines

Male 1886 - 1936  (50 years)

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  • Name John William Staines  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Born 16 Jan 1886  Union Workhouse, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 5
    Gender Male 
    Census 5 Apr 1891  1 Stephens Yard, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Age: 5y 
    Occupation 5 Apr 1891  1 Stephens Yard, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Scholar 
    Residence 5 Apr 1891  1 Stephens Yard, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Age: 5y 
    Census 31 Mar 1901  203 Western Road, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Age: 15y 
    Name John William Cumberpatch  [5
    Name John William Williams  [6
    Occupation 31 Mar 1901  203 Western Road, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Tyre Preparer - India Rubber Hand 
    Residence 31 Mar 1901  203 Western Road, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Age: 15y 
    Occupation 9 Sep 1914  [3
    Private 7537 1st Battalion Leicestershire Regiment 
    • Date of Disembarkation: 9 Sep 1914
    Occupation 31 Jul 1915  [3
    Private 29080 Nottinghamshire & Derbyshire Regiment (The Sherwood Foresters) 
    Reference Number 0010175 
    Died 18 Mar 1936  Billesdon Registration District, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Age: 51y 
    Person ID I10175  Cumberbatch
    Last Modified 7 Jun 2015 

    Mother Mary Ann Cumberpatch,   b. Cal 1867, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between Jan 1945 and Mar 1945, Leicester Registration District, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 78 years) 
    Family ID F3138  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Florence M G Hemsley 
    Married Between Jul 1913 and Sep 1913  Leicester Registration District, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Children 
     1. Dorothy E Staines,   b. Between Jan 1914 and Mar 1914, Leicester Registration District, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Living
     3. Living
     4. Living
    Last Modified 7 Jun 2015 
    Family ID F3140  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - 16 Jan 1886 - Union Workhouse, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 5y - 5 Apr 1891 - 1 Stephens Yard, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Scholar - 5 Apr 1891 - 1 Stephens Yard, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Age: 5y - 5 Apr 1891 - 1 Stephens Yard, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - Age: 15y - 31 Mar 1901 - 203 Western Road, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsOccupation - Tyre Preparer - India Rubber Hand - 31 Mar 1901 - 203 Western Road, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - Age: 15y - 31 Mar 1901 - 203 Western Road, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Between Jul 1913 and Sep 1913 - Leicester Registration District, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Age: 51y - 18 Mar 1936 - Billesdon Registration District, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Brief notes of family Remembrances of John William STAINES
      16th January, 1886 – 18th March, 1936.
      John William first saw the light of day in the Union Workhouse, Northampton. Two years later his mother married James William Staines who became his Stepfather and gave him his family name. His mother’s maiden name was Cumberpatch, but in further research, her Marriage Certificate in 1888 showed that she had added Williams to her surname – Mary Ann Cumberpatch Williams. Did she name John William Cumberpatch (now Staines) using the name of his father John Williams as his forenames?
      It would appear that Grandmother Cumberpatch, whose maiden name was White, was married to a Shoemaker whose kinfolk came to Leicester to work in the shoe industry bringing in young Mary Ann and her son John with them. At this time of the century most of the workers in the shoe industry and allied trades were settled in the Parish of St. Margaret. By 1888 the Parish of St. Margaret boasted another Church called Christchurch dealing with christenings and marriages where Mary Ann joined in matrimony with James William Staines thereby giving a form of acceptance of John William into the Staines dynasty, already a proud family of artisans who could boast a number of their ancestors who were Freemen of the City of Leicester, and indeed can still record family members in the year of 2002.
      Mary Ann Staines, as she now was, eventually had seven children, starting in 1890 with Job, John Henry, Florence, Ethel, George and Lillian. My mother, Lillian, told of the many escapades involving John William Staines. She said he had “a wanderlust” and she never believed there was any other reason for his devilment, but it is not very hard to imagine the feelings of one who is a stepchild and who has acquire a father of proud disciplinarian quality. The 1891 Census describes him as a “Lodger” at five years of age when, in fact, he is a member of a family that is already growing. Many times John William Staines would stay away from home all day and night and would often be found in the early morning hours, asleep in the lavatory situated down the end of the backyard of their house in Western Road, Leicester. On other occasions John William Staines could be seen diving into the Canal by the Western Boulevard and playing at life saving his friends. There were many times when his Stepfather would have to walk to Glen Parva to collect him after he had “marched” with the Band of the Leicester Regiment as they marched out of the Magazine in Newarkes, Leicester. From the family stories, nobody realised that John William Staines was two years older that the married period of their parents. Such was the subterfuge involved that, when one day he never returned home, Mary Ann told her other children that a nearby neighbour had signed his Enlistment Papers because he was underage for Army Service! In fact he was eighteen years old and no longer needed anyone’s permission to enlist. Within a few months John William Staines was with the 2nd Battalion Leicester Regiment in India, and no doubt they must have been the happier days in his early life. In 1908 the sad news came to him about the tragic drowning of his younger stepbrother George, to whom he was fairly close.
      John William Staines was a more restrained character by all accounts and no doubt Army discipline had made its influence felt. Education seems to have been foremost in his early Army days – he was already engaged in the study of elementary Arithmetics and other educational subjects, even to the extent of gaining a Diploma at Bangalore in the role of Nursing Orderly. It is quite probable that he felt at home in his Army career and was quite able to take the “hard knocks” of life more easily. By 1912, Army life came to an end and he returned to England to find the Staines family had left his old haunts of Western Road and were now ensconced at 131 Wilberforce Road, Leicester. In the month of August, 1913, John William Staines to himself a bride called Florence Hemsley. He was 26 years, she was 27 years and by the following year they had the first addition to their family – daughter. It wasn’t very long before the Great War broke out and as a Reservist he was called to the Colours once more. This time he was seconded to the Notts and Derby’s Regiment – The Sherwood Foresters and before long with the B.E.F. in France. By the month of October in 1914 he had been wounded in action which took him back to Blighty where he stayed in the American Hospital at Paignton in Devon. As a result of his wounds he was medically downgraded to B1 and sent to Egypt with the B.M.E.F. ostensibly to guard the Suez Canal. It was there that, in a Canalside café he met his stepfather, who at the age of 46 was a Rifleman in the 1st Batt. London Rifles. The meeting was but brief as both men were enroute to various parts of the Country. This was to be the last time that John William Staines would see his stepfather. Rifleman James William Staines was accidentally killed whilst on duty at the Military Rifle Range in the month of May, 1918, aged 49 years. He now lies in the Military Cemetery at Ramileh [Ramleh] in Israel. In 1919 only one member of the Staines family returned to England to the new found peace – John William.
      Three more children, another daughter and two sons came when the Great War had ended.
      By this time John William Staines was making his home in the township of Coalville. His occupation is not known but it is likely that he sought work with the LMS Railway Company. Family life must have been hard in the depression years of the Twenties – already his stepbrother George was long gone in the tragic drowning of 1908 and the death of his Stepfather in 1918. Still misfortunes of life were to dog him.
      By 1927, his stepbrother Joseph (Job), beset by the horror and shellshock of War in Europe, took his own life by drowning in the River Soar not far from the family home.
      The final straw came with the infidelity of his wife who left him for pastures new leaving him to care for his four children. Unable to cope with the burden John William Staines had to put his children into care for adoption. To this day, the writer still seeks to find some evidence of their existence. By this time he became a Railway Shunter. He left his home in Coalville and came back to lodgings in Leicester. Holidays were taken in the form of free travel on his Railway Pass – once again he became a free spirit.
      By 1936 he had been taken ill with stomach cancer and in a short while he departed this life. The Death Certificate merely states ‘cancer of the colon’ ut members of his family claimed the surgeon had removed minor shrapnel fragments during his early treatment. He rests quietly in an unmarked grave in Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester.
      G.R. Deakin (nephew of John William Staines) April 2002.

      DE6515 from the Leicestershire Record Office 22 May 2015.
    • Third Class Certificate of Education
      Awarded on the authority of the H E the Commander in Chief in India
      To
      No. 7537 Private J.W. Staines
      2nd Battalion Leicestershire Regiment On the recommendation of Inspector of Army Schools Lieut W.G. Fairbrother
      Attainments
      Arithmetic: First four Rules, Money Avoirdupois Weight and Lineal Measure Simple Addition & Subtraction of Vulgar Fractions
      Writing from Dictation: Proficiency in Writing Regimental Orders
      Composition – Writing a simple letter

      28 Oct 1910

      DE6515 from the Leicestershire Record Office 22 May 2015.
    • CERTIFICATE
      This is to certify that No 7537 Private STAINES J.W. 2nd Leicester. Regiment has undergone a course of instruction in nursing duties
      He has passed an examination at Bangalore on 27th March 1912 according to Regulations and is hereby qualified to perform the duties of a nursing orderly.
      Degree of proficiency: Very good
      Station: Bangalore
      Date: 28 May 1912

      DE6515 from the Leicestershire Record Office 22 May 2015.
    • Character of Soldier serving with an Expeditionary Force
      Name: Staines John William
      Regiment: Sherwood Foresters
      How has he been employed in the Army? Regimental duties
      Sobriety: Yes, very
      Is he reliable: Yes
      Is he intelligent: Yes
      Has he a good power of command and control, and is he tactful in his way of handling men? Yes

      DE6515 from the Leicestershire Record Office 22 May 2015.
    • Y.M.C.A. with Mediterranean Expeditionary Force
      April 7, 1917
      Same address,
      Dear Harry,
      Well I have just got your last letter – and excuse me not answering same before now you see it’s like this I have only just got back from India, to Egypt and regt. Now my dear boy I am sorry to know you have been so unwell, but hope you are better by now. Well you seem optimistic that I shall soon be home now seeing they are forming a new Garrison Batt. at home – for foreign service. But you see our Batt. is a service one, and I do not know whether it will affect us or not. But my dear boy speaking for myself, I wish the thing was over so I could return home & to my former life, if only for your mother’s sake, and I am beginning to feel the strain. I hope you will continue to write & comfort your mother, as much as possible – and I know she worries over me. Yes I think the war will end soon, Germans can never stand the strain- much longer, and now the United States have gone against her the end will come sooner than we expect. I am always pleased to have a few lines from yourself, and I very often think of you, and the time when we shall meet again. Now I hope you will excuse these few simple lines, I do not feel in much form for writing at present. So now my lad goodbye for present, remember me to all. And now in conclusion I ask you to believe me to remain.
      Truly yours J.W. Staines

      DE6515 from the Leicestershire Record Office 22 May 2015.
    • 1st Battalion LEICESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
      88
      ROLL of INDIVIDUALS entitled to the Decoration granted under Army Order 350 of 1917 [1914 Star]
      Regimental No. Rank Name Date of Disembarkation Remarks
      7537 Private STAINES John William 9 Sep 1914 Notts & Derby 29080 31 Jul 1915 (Private)
      Lichfield, 17 Jun 1918

      NOTTINGHAMSHIRE & DERBYSHIRE REGIMENT
      2090.B.
      ROLL of INDIVIDUALS entitled to the Victory Medal and British War Medal under Army Orders 301 and 266 of 1919
      Regimental No. Rank Name Unit (in order) Remarks
      29080 Private STAINES John William 7537 1st Battalion Leicestershire Regiment 29080 1st General Battalion Notts & Derby Regiment
      Lichfield, 7 Oct 1920
      [3]

  • Sources 
    1. [S9071] Deaths England & Wales 1936 Mar Qtr, Billesdon, John W Staines.

    2. [S9080] 1901 Census James W Staines Class: RG13; Piece: 3007; Folio: 117; Page: 11.

    3. [S9082] Medal Index Card WW1 John William Staines.

    4. [S9085] Marriages England & Wales 1913 Sep Qtr, Leicester, JOhn W Staines & Florence M G Hemsley.

    5. [S9070] Births England & Wales 1886 Mar Qtr, Northampton, John William Cumberpatch.

    6. [S9074] Census 1891 1 Stephens Yard, St Margarets, Leicester, Leicestershire, England RG12/2534/148/33, (RG12/2534/148/33).